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Berthier rifle
Rifle Berthier
fusil mle 1907-15
Type Bolt-action rifle
Place of origin France France
Service history
In service 1890–1960s
Used by

France France,
Nazi GermanyNazi Germany,
Turkey Turkey,
Greece Greece,
Poland Poland,
Thailand Thailand,
Lebanon Lebanon,
Serbia Serbia,
Romania Romania,
Russian Empire Russian Empire,
Belgium Belgium,
Italy Italy,
United States United States,
Ethiopian Empire Ethiopian Empire,
Vietnam Vietnam,

Second Spanish Republic Spanish Republic
Wars World War I,
Polish-Soviet War,
Greco-Turkish War,
Rif War (1920),
Second Italo-Ethiopian War,
Spanish Civil War,
World War II,
First Indochina War,
Algerian War
Production history
Designer Emile Berthier
Designed 1890
Manufacturer

Manufacture d'Armes de Châtellerault,
Manufacture d'Armes de Saint-Étienne,
Delaunay Belleville,
Remington,

Ets. Continsouza
No. built 3,674,538
Variants

Mle 1890 Cavalry Carbine,
Mle 1890 Cuirassier Carbine,
Mle 1890 Gendarmerie Carbine,
Mle 1892 Artillery Musketoon,
Mle 1902 Indochina Short Rifle,
Mle 1907 Colonial Rifle,
Mle 1907/15,
Mle 1892/M16,
Mle 1907/15-M16,
Mle 1902/M16 Indochina Rifle,

Mle 1907/15-M34
Specifications
Length

945 mm (37.2 in) (Carbines),
952 mm (37.5 in) (Cuirassier Carbine),
1,050 mm (41.3 in) (Turkish Orman Rifle),
1,075 mm (42.3 in) (Mle 1907/15-M34),
1,125 mm (44.3 in) (Mle 1902),

1,305 mm (51.4 in) (Mle 1907/15)

Cartridge 8×50R mm
7.5×54mm French(Mle 1907/15-M34)
.22LR
Action Bolt-action
Muzzle velocity

701 m/s (2,300 ft/s),
637 m/s (2,090 ft/s) (Carbine),

850 m/s (2,800 ft/s) (Mle 1907/15-M34)
Feed system 3-or 5-round Mannlicher-type en bloc magazine,
clip fed (Mle 1907/15-M34)

The Berthier rifles and carbines were a family of bolt-action small arms in 8mm Lebel, used in the French Army from the 1890s to the beginning of World War II (1940). After World War II, the Berthier carbine with a five round clip ( Mle 1890M16, 1892M16 and Mle 1916 "mousquetons" ) was again utilized by French Foreign Legion and some colonial infantry and cavalry units, including the French Spahis. Mle 1916 Berthier carbines were retained in some French law enforcement units (e.g. the "Compagnies Republicaines de Securite" or "CRS") until the 1960s. The Berthier weapons were invented by a French civilian engineer in the Algerian railways, named Emile Berthier, whose first short carbine designed to arm cavalry troops was adopted by the French Army on March 14, 1890.

Berthier Mousqueton (carbine), Mle 1890 and Mle 1892[]

The Berthier design began as the "Mousquetons Berthier" - a series of bolt action cavalry and artillery carbines with distinctly different actions from the Mle 1886M93 8mm Lebel rifle. For instance the Berthier carbine's bolt lugs do lock vertically into the receiver instead of horizontally as in the Lebel rifle. Berthier carbines were first issued in 1890 and 1892, and had been designed by Emile Berthier, an engineer at the French Algerian Railways,to be used with standard 8mm Lebel ammunition. The Berthier design was introduced as a replacement for the various aging Mle 1874 Gras single-shot carbines - still standard for French cavalry, artillery, and gendarme forces even after the introduction of the Mle 1886M93 Lebel. Prior experiments with several carbine versions of the Lebel action proved unacceptably heavy and slow to load while on horseback. While retaining most of the bolt action's strong points, the Berthier carbine improved on the earlier Mle 1886 rifle by using a one-piece stock and a Mannlicher-style, charger-loaded en bloc 3 shot clip. These Berthier carbines were progressively allocated to all cavalry,artillery and gendarmerie troops during the 1890s.

Fusil Mle 1902 and Mle 1907[]

After the success of the Berthier carbines or mousquetons, two full-length Berthier rifles were introduced during the years preceding World War I. They were the fusil Mle 1902 ("rifle, model of 1902") and the fusil Mle 1907, which were issued respectively to Indochinese and Senegalese Tirailleur troops. Lighter and easier to handle and load than the Mle 1886/M93 Lebel rifle, the Berthier rifles proved more suitable for offhand shooting and easier to maintain in tropical environments. In comparison to the Mle 1886 Lebel, the Berthier's sights were also wider, higher and more substantial. Like their shorter carbine counterparts, these Berthier rifles also featured a Mannlicher-type 3-round en bloc clip-loaded magazine and used 8 mm Lebel ammunition. The Mle 1902 and Mle 1907 were made on special order and in small numbers (altogether about 5,000 rifles) by the Manufacture d'Armes de Châtellerault.

World War I and the Fusil Mle 1907/15[]

During World War I, a modified version of the 3-round clip Mle 1907 rifle called Fusil Mle 1907/15 was manufactured in large numbers (altogether 435,000 rifles) and issued to colonial troops, to the French Foreign Legion and to many minor allies (e.g. Russian Legion in France, Serbia, Greece, American Expeditionary Force African-American regiments detached to the French Army). It was also issued to some French regular infantry regiments after 1916 in order to bring relief to an endemic shortage of the Lebel rifle although well over 2 million Lebel rifles had already been produced between 1887 and 1917. Both the Manufacture d'armes de Saint-Étienne and the MAC (Châtellerault) were the principal state contractors for the Mle 1907/15 rifle. French civilian contractors (Delaunay-Belleville and Continsouza) also participated massively in the manufacture of the Mle 1907/15 rifle.

Remington UMC also contracted to produce a French Army order for 200,000 Mle 1907/15 rifles. Although very well finished, the Remington order was rejected by French Government acceptance inspectors, who alleged that the rifles did not meet French barrel rifling and chamber dimensional standards. The contract was canceled after approximately half of the rifles were manufactured; and those rifles were sold on the civilian market with only some being purchased by the United States government used as training rifles and never made it to France. Many of these rifles subsequently appeared on the surplus market in the United States, often converted for hunting or sporting purposes and lack serial numbers. African-American soldiers assigned to fight under French command with French colonial troops and other regiments were equipped with French production rifles and French Equipment.[1] These rifles hold special significance to African-American historians.

In combat service, most infantrymen found the Berthier rifle and carbine, with their one-piece stocks and fast-loading en bloc magazine, to be an improvement. However, the limited ammunition capacity of the Berthier Mle 1907/15's magazine (3 rounds) was viewed as a great disadvantage by troops in close contact with the enemy or participating in assaults or trench raids.

In response, French military authorities introduced a modified Berthier rifle in 1916, designated Fusil Mle 1907/15-M16 but generally called the 1916 rifle (Fusil Mle 1916). The new rifle had a five-round en block-loaded magazine. The Mle 1916 Berthier rifle appeared rather late and only in small numbers on the front lines during the summer of 1918. With its greater cartridge capacity, it was immediately better received than the Mle 1907/15 rifle. Nevertheless, some commanders continued to lobby for reissuance of the older Mle 1886/93 Lebel for their infantry troops. After World War I, the French Foreign Legion, which carried the 3-shot Mle 1907-15 during most of its post-1916 combat operations, was re-equipped with the older Mle 1886 M93 Lebel rifle.

Once of the most successful and long-lived variants of the Berthier system was the short and handy carbine version of the five-shot Mle 1916 Berthier, designated "'Mousqueton Berthier Mle 1892/M16". This carbine proved very popular with mounted cavalry, artillery, and reconnaissance troops. It was still in service with some French law enforcement units as late as the 1960s.

After World War I, the French military sought to replace the 8mm Lebel cartridge, which was poorly suited to large-capacity rifle magazines and to automatic or semi-automatic weapons. After considerable delay, a modern 7.5mm mle 1929 rimless cartridge was finally introduced for the FM 24/29 light machine gun. Berthier rifles were converted (Fusil Mle 1907/15-M34) or newly manufactured (Fusil Mle 1934) to make use of the new round. However, this was merely an interim measure, as the French Army adopted the MAS-36 as its new standard bolt-action rifle. In the end, the production of converted Mle 1907/15-M34 Berthier rifles was limited to approximately 63,000[2] units.

World War II[]

Despite the advent of the MAS-36, the French Army did not have enough of the new rifles for all of its forces. Berthier rifles and carbines remained in service and saw action in both France and Norway in 1940. Selected Berthier Mle 1907/15-M16 (Fusil Mle 1916) rifles were fitted with telescopic sights and used, along with scoped Mle 1886/R93 rifles, by marksmen detailed to serve with some French units. In September 1938, the French Army also introduced the corps franc, special formations of infiltration and deep reconnaissance soldiers formed into l'equipe or assault teams. These elite reconnaissance and infiltration troops were equipped with a variety of small arms, including a combat knife, a handgun, grenades, and Berthier Mle 1892/M16 carbines.

During World War II, the Third Reich issued plenty of captured Berthiers to German occupation forces in France, mainly to Atlantic Wall units. Some were used by police units fighting partisans in various eastern European countries including security units operating at the rear of German front lines in Soviet Union.

Postwar Usage[]

After World War II, most Berthier rifles were retired, except for some rifles held by indigenous units and reserve forces. However, the Berthier carbine with a five round clip ( Mle 1890 M16, 1892 M16 and Mle 1916 "mousquetons" ) was again utilized by French Foreign Legion and some overseas colonial infantry and cavalry units, including the French Spahis, French motorized cavalry units, frontier border guards, and French Indochina. Berthier carbines were retained in some French law enforcement units (e.g. the "Compagnies Republicaines de Securite" or "CRS") as late as the 1980s.

In the late 1940s, Turkish Forest Service began issuing three-shot Berthier carbines, altered to utilize a nose-cap from M1905/8 Mauser Carbines taken out of Turkish service[3]. These rifles, known to collectors as "Turkish Forestry Carbines", were used to protect the Caucasian walnut forests from illegal logging.

Lebanon also used the M16 pattern Berthier rifle and modifed them to use .22LR to use as training rifles.

References[]

  1. McCollum, Ian. “Berthier.” Chassepot To Famas, Headstamp Publishing, pp. 272–272.
  2. McCollum, Ian. “Berthier, Mle 1907-15 M34 Production Data.” Chassepot To Famas, Headstamp Publishing, p. 306.
  3. McCollum, Ian. “Berthier, Turkish 'Orman' Pattern Rifles.” Chassepot To Famas, Headstamp Publishing, pp. 308–309.

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